Sunday, October 02, 2011

The Unasked Question

My old acquaintance (and brother Knight of the SCA), David Friedman, is the son of Nobel Laureate Milton Friedman. He has a question that I haven't seen anyone else ask, nor try to answer:
The argument for large and expensive efforts to prevent or reduce global warming has three parts, in principle separable: Global temperature is trending up, the reason is human activity, and the consequences of the trend continuing are very bad. Almost all arguments, pro and con, focus on the first two. The third, although necessary to support the conclusion, is for the most part ignored by both sides.

The usual argument to show that an increase in global temperatures by a few degrees centigrade over the next century would be a catastrophe, or at least a very bad thing, consists of pointing out specific bad effects: rising sea level increasing the risk of flooding in very low lying areas, rising temperature making particular areas less suited to growing the crops they now grow. But an increase in global temperature would also have good effects, as should be obvious to anyone who has ever spent a winter in Chicago, not to mention Alaska or Siberia. The question is not whether there are any bad effects but whether there are net bad effects, whether the increased risk of flooding in Bangladesh does or does not outweigh the opening of a sea route north of Asia and the increase in the habitable area of Canada and Siberia.

The answer, I think, is that nobody knows if the net effects would be good or bad, and probably nobody can know.
[Emphasis added.]

11 comments:

Subvet said...

Completely off topic, it's good to see you're blogging again.

You mention you're in Plano. If you ever feel the urge for some lousy coffee up in Princeton, let me know and I'll brew up a pot for both of us.

Welcome to Texas.

Oliver said...

I think the point scientists are making is that the net effects would be bad. You haven't really stumbled upon the great unanswered question.

They are not talking about things in isolation. They're not saying, The Netherlands will flood, but Chicago will have warmer winters.

The point they are making is actually quite clear - there will be extreme weather events, heat waves, extinction of many animal species and reduction in water supplies, to name but a few.

Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

Oliver, are they, or are they not, talking about positive effects of global warming? In one paragraph you seem to say they are, but then you seem to say they aren't. Which is it?

Oliver said...

they are answering your 'unasked question' by saying that the net effect of human induced climate change would be bad.

Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

"They"? You mean the "scientists" you mentioned before? Do they admit of any positive effects?

You are aware of course, that there are many scientists who disagree.

Finally, it's not MY "unasked question," it's Dr. Friedman's.

Oxford House said...
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Oliver said...

there are scientists who don't agree, yes. But there would appear to be a broad consensus amongst scientists in general, which of course you must know.

Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

If it's consensus, then it's not science.

Oliver said...

What do you mean by this statement?

Paul, just this guy, you know? said...

Click on the link and find out.

Meanwhile, being a liberal, you only boo straight soldiers?

Oliver said...

Yeah I read it already. I'm interested in this catchphrase of yours:

"If it's consensus, then it's not science"

There's no mention of this in the article.