I had the pleasure of meeting Voris, chatting briefly with him, and hearing him speak during his visit to Chicago last month to speak to Catholic Citizens of Illinois.
(Yes, I know, it's a poor cell phone image.)
Thursday, January 13, 2011
The Vortex: Mixed Bag
Michael Voris calls for bold clarity from Church leaders in expressing Church teaching:
I had the pleasure of meeting Voris, chatting briefly with him, and hearing him speak during his visit to Chicago last month to speak to Catholic Citizens of Illinois.
(Yes, I know, it's a poor cell phone image.)
I had the pleasure of meeting Voris, chatting briefly with him, and hearing him speak during his visit to Chicago last month to speak to Catholic Citizens of Illinois.
(Yes, I know, it's a poor cell phone image.)
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But the question is, Is it a rug?
A cruel and irrelevant question. But no way it's a rug.
I visit Michael's studio from time to time - it's located in metro Detroit - he's a blessing to the Church. Glad you got to meet him!
Michael"Western civilization would be better off it were a Catholic monarchy" Voris. Nice.
I agree, clarity from the Church is a good thing.
But Paul, shouldn't you be hanging out with patriots?
Are you suggesting that Catholics can't be patriots?
I'm just saying that, by your own standards, Voris isn't one. A patriot, that is.
The man seemingly doesn't believe in democracy, and I can't believe that anyone who could say that a Catholic monarchy is the best possible type of government could have any sort of allegiance to this republic.
It's all public record.
John, I want you to stop trolling my blog now.
You clearly have no knowledge whatever of my standards, and no interest in them.
Likewise, you clearly have no interest in understanding what Michael Voris has to say.
I'll be deleting your comments from here out, because you contribute nothing -- nothing! -- to the conversations here, and I'm sick of your snarky, divisive, trollish, bullshit.
Fail.
Paul, welcome to the "Those Who Have Had the Pleasure of Meeting Michael Voris" Club. I got to meet him last Sept when he was in DBQ.
As for your ban on John. Clearly John doesn't know what Voris stands for. IMHO, he is cherry picking & taking Voris' quotes out of context to justify attacking you & Voris.
Well Voris is guilty of being a rather ghastly homophobe if nothing else
Don't gays have as much right to be killed and maimed on the whim of political elite's as heterosexuals?
Paul, can you explain in simple terms what Michael Voris meant? I tried to find a web page about it, but all I found were attack pieces.
For example, does he mean "A monarchy that would follow always Catholic teachings"? If so, then that's the same as saying we'd be better off if we were ruled by angels - a hypothetical that couldn't happen.
Joe, Voris is repeating Catholic teaching. If that makes him a homophobe in your view, then you probably shouldn't be reading this blog.
And, for the record, being "killed and maimed on the whim of political elite's" is not what the military is for. If that's your view of the military's purpose, again, you probably don't belong here.
Ori, I'm not familiar with the quote they're saying Voris said, so I don't know the context, and truth be told, I'm not very interested.
There's a sport among liberals that if they find something that seems -- or can be made to seem -- outlandish that a person might have said at any time, then they use that quote to impeach anything and everything that person might ever say.
It's not a game I care to play.
Though I can understand absolute consistency is something Michael Voris and Paul desire in the Catholic Church's statements, I don't think it would resolve the diversity of beliefs among parishioners. Those that differ with the church on a controversial issue probably arrived at that belief as result of personal experience and self-reflection rather than a lack of consistent message on the part of the Catholic Church.
Stephanie, you seem to have an inflated opinion about the value of Catholics holding a "diversity of beliefs."
Either a thing is true, or it isn't. Catholics belief that it's possible to know that truth.
Whether an issue is controversial is totally irrelevant. If the Church teaches on a question, then all faithful Catholics should assent to that teaching, and all Catholic clergy should promulgate and defend that teaching.
We don't vote on truth. A person's personal experience and self-reflection cannot change the truth.
Paul, I don't claim any value either way. I'm just noting that a diversity of beliefs exist among the parishioners, and that I believe the diversity is not from a lack of firm communication.
Parishioners in most religions do not vote on their faith. However, positions on truths can evolve over time with influence from society. Even the Catholic Church has made some changes. Now you can attend New Mass in English, something unthinkable a hundred years ago.
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